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Post by elchupacabras970 on Apr 17, 2009 10:08:18 GMT -5
"Flanders" Ugh! You either like him or hate him, and obviously most like him, even though I can't take his drivel.
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Post by BonnevilleMariner on Apr 17, 2009 10:44:26 GMT -5
Seems like people either love Lonsberry or hate him. It's rare that I ever meet somebody who's lukewarm on him.
By the way, I actually stayed up and listened to Clark Howard last night. Good stuff.
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Post by elchupacabras970 on Apr 17, 2009 12:33:41 GMT -5
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Post by BonnevilleMariner on Apr 17, 2009 13:42:26 GMT -5
Yeah, and we all know left-leaning talkers have never misspoken or offended somebody. They're all angels. And by the way, who ever said Lonsberry was considered to play the high moral ground? Certainly he hasn't.
The monkey thing was in like 2003, and I'd ask you to read his whole quote in context before you swallow the story hook, line, and sinker, and assume he made a racist remark.
And the thing about expectant teen moms? Offensive? Maybe (it isn't to me, but then I'm a bitter, cold-hearted conservative). But you can't tell me Lefty talking heads don't say equally offensive things all the time.
Dude was excommunicated from the church and says himself that he fully expects to end up in hell. He's not some holier-than-thou prude.
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Post by BonnevilleMariner on Apr 17, 2009 14:02:29 GMT -5
By the way, Elchups, my comments about Lonsberry were about his format and broadcasting talent. You don't like him, I get it. I didn't argue with you. But then you have to go and attack his politics. Why? Why does everything with you turn into a political firefight? Are you hoping I fire back and start an ugly argument that will end in you deleting the thread?
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Post by elchupacabras970 on Apr 17, 2009 17:20:42 GMT -5
By the way, Elchups, my comments about Lonsberry were about his format and broadcasting talent. You don't like him, I get it. I didn't argue with you. But then you have to go and attack his politics. Why? Why does everything with you turn into a political firefight? Are you hoping I fire back and start an ugly argument that will end in you deleting the thread? I am glad you responded. I enjoy engaging with anyone and have no intention of deleting the thread nor editing your comments! I stand by the fact, in my own personal opinion, not representing the board, that those comments of his were over the top. I may not like him personally, but I also recognize his pull with listeners. You have to credit him there. Why would you assume this is a political "firefight?" I, to a certain degree, am doing the same thing he does: putting out a topic of interest to generate posts. His tools are the the talk show and the phone. Mine: the blogosphere and posting. The result is the same. It got you to post, didn't it? |
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Post by elchupacabras970 on Apr 17, 2009 17:21:43 GMT -5
Dude was excommunicated from the church and says himself that he fully expects to end up in hell. He's not some holier-than-thou prude. So? |
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Post by BonnevilleMariner on Apr 17, 2009 17:50:22 GMT -5
I, to a certain degree, am doing the same thing he does: putting out a topic of interest to generate posts. His tools are the the talk show and the phone. Mine: the blogosphere and posting. The result is the same. It got you to post, didn't it? It did, and this is why I post here. I dig the debates. I just didn't know whether you were escalating the Lonsberry talk to get my goat or keep the conversation going. I'm good for a nice argument either way. Personally, I'd rather read and participate in brutal debates here rather than have this place dead. I'm all about conversation. My point on Lonsberry's excommunication (I believe he's been rebaptized since) is that so many people like to paint him as a Mormon prude. I don't give him kudos for doing whatever it is he did to get ex-ed, but I do like to remind people that he's a bit more nuanced than they'd like to think he is. Personally (in case you haven't noticed), I think quite highly of the fellow. |
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Post by toomuchradio on Apr 17, 2009 22:18:37 GMT -5
Lonsberry owns Doug Wright at any level of competition, except maybe stellar church membership. Personally I don't care where Doug Wright lives, nor do I care where Lonsberry lives. I am entertained and sometimes even enlightened when I listen to Ned Flanders, whereas when I listen to Doug Wright I am so bored hearing him repeat himself over and over and over. I like local talk and can't seem to find anyone to listen to on the drive home other than Sports. Once the Jazz get bounced in 4 games I dread the thought of having to turn the dial to music. But I still choose music over Hannity, Glenn Beck, or baseball talk. If only KSL could bring in Clark Howard over Hannity. I know he's not local, but his content is terrific.
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Post by elchupacabras970 on Apr 18, 2009 8:38:49 GMT -5
Thinking about it, I have to say Salt Lake has few local talk shows. You have a few on public radio, Nightside, Doug Wright and Ned Flanders. I forgot the wingnuts on KTKK (other than maybe Sumpter). Wright is about as milktoast as they come. His nauseating movie show is popular, but you could play a tape of his crtiques for one movie and it would be the same for the next. My votes for the best: Nightside and yes, Lonsberry. Although I pine for the days of Tom Barberi. I still can't believe people thought he was a "liberal lunatic." I thought he was pretty much the "voice of reason." I also have to list the old KTKK, pre 1995. Golden Delicious, Hank and Joe, Kay Henry, and even the original wingnut, Mills Crankshaft, or was that Crenshaw, Art Bell at night. That was a GREAT talk station done locally. And then came KCNR with Rick and the crew. They REALLY shook things up, maybe to the other side, but they were entertaining.
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Post by toomuchradio on Apr 18, 2009 14:33:16 GMT -5
Ahhh, the good old days of Art Bell. Loved him. The guy couldn't possibly believe even 1/10 of what he said on the radio but it was awesome entertainment. Strictly ranking on entertainment value, you have to have in your top 10 Phil Hendrie. That guy used to have me in tears on the drive home as I laughed at the conversations he had with himself through various voices. Nightside is okay, but elchupacabras Tom Barberri didn't have it. Maybe your really old and Tom Barberri had a heyday, but I listed, or didn't listen, to his last 10 years. Wa Wa Wa, was all Barberri had to say. Utah drinking laws suck, U of U rules, and .... oh yea Utah Drinking laws suck. I tired of his schtick very quickly. He was right, the U of U does rule.... only after he was no longer on the air.
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Post by elchupacabras970 on Apr 18, 2009 15:22:52 GMT -5
Ahhh, the good old days of Art Bell. Loved him. The guy couldn't possibly believe even 1/10 of what he said on the radio but it was awesome entertainment. Strictly ranking on entertainment value, you have to have in your top 10 Phil Hendrie. That guy used to have me in tears on the drive home as I laughed at the conversations he had with himself through various voices. Nightside is okay, but elchupacabras Tom Barberri didn't have it. Maybe your really old and Tom Barberri had a heyday, but I listed, or didn't listen, to his last 10 years. Wa Wa Wa, was all Barberri had to say. Utah drinking laws suck, U of U rules, and .... oh yea Utah Drinking laws suck. I tired of his schtick very quickly. He was right, the U of U does rule.... only after he was no longer on the air. I missed most of the last 10 years of Barberi. I remember hearing him on KALL with Bob Hendricks in his heyday. Nightside is o.k., but out of my demographic. I still find it more refreshing than some of the other shows. Art Bell: Now there was as radio man's radio man! I never slept when he was on the air. Not only would he do UFO stuff, but he'd also talk about the industry, propagation as a ham operator, and interesting religious topics too. George Noory bores me to tears, although sometimes he has interesting guests. Living in Mexico, I catch him on 1200 WOAI now. Phil Hendrie: He's not half the host he used to be. His best material came from the old KFI days (when 640 was in C-Quam Stereo and sounded AWESOME even on talk). That was before he revealed that he did all the voices. What a performer! There is one more local host who deserves a mention: The British bloke Martin Davies. What a hoot! He was on several stations and had quite a following with his "Weasel of the week!" And on second thought, I remember tuning in to KSL at night for the Bob Lee show. I wonder what Bob is doing now. He was rather influential in my early political viewpoints (although they've changed the past 15 years). If I had to pick one guy who should do political talk but doesn't: Bill Allred from X-96. He did some travel segments on the old KDYL years ago and was VERY entertaining. I had the opportunity to work with him years ago. Agree or disagree he is witty, creative and knows how to pack a punch with his arguments. He also knows how to adapt himself to different demographics and formats. He is, after all, a seasoned radio professional. |
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Post by BonnevilleMariner on Apr 20, 2009 11:43:44 GMT -5
I missed most of the last 10 years of Barberi. I remember hearing him on KALL with Bob Hendricks in his heyday. You didn't miss much then. Barberi was always cynical, but it went over the top the last few years on KALL. Barberi had an uncanny knack for the medium, which I really enjoyed. I remember sneaking my Walkman into school to listen during class. I never missed Barberi. But during the last few years there everything I didn't like about him- overkill cynicism, palpable hate for the LDS Church, slit-your-wrists negativity- seemed to surface and overshadow his wit and wisdom. People labeled him "liberal" mainly for three reasons: 1) He hated (and I mean HATED) the LDS Church. Back then, the terms "Mormon" and "conservative" were more interchangeable than they are now. Lots of people heard him rip the church's politics and took him to be bashing conservatism. Ergo, he's a liberal. 2) He relentlessly bashed the Republican legislature. 3) While he actually leans more libertarian, he had sort of a special antipathy for conservative politicos, and would at times take the opposite position from conservative talkers just because. Supposedly, working with Barberi those last few years was hell. There were rumors of a scandal (which I won't get into here), and the bitterness and negativity were through the roof. If I were going to hang myself, I'd do it to tapes of Barberi's last years on KALL. He sucked rocks on 97.5, but part of that was his time slot, format, and airhead sidekick. And it was further downhill from there. |
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