Jazz on Comcast

[BlowMeUpTom]

I guess the only Jazz games on Comcast are the ones on KJZZ, anybody got any info, did the boys at comcast falsely advertise all summer that they were the jazz network? if so I think it needs to be advertised they are liars, and a boycott is in order!!!

[grimbasement]

I might as well say it too.. I hate Comcast but the condo includes cable as part of the HOA dues so I can't justify paying for TV twice... yet (But I have come pretty close a few times). At any rate a close friend of mine is a PR person for Comcast and he gave me the "Comcast unofficial truth" in other words "this is what really happened and not the BS some CSR tells you when you call Custemer No-Service. If anyone has any other info or can correct the details feel free.


If I remember the story correctly the Jazz contacted Comcast about an "exclusive" deal on broadcasting Jazz games for X ammount of dollars. While comcast was picking their nose Fox Sports Rocky Mountain (FSN Utah) outbid what the Jazz wanted from Comcast and won the deal with the Jazz.

After the deal was signed with FSN then Comcast was finally able to pull their head out and (supposedly) wanted to broadcast the Jazz games too. The Jazz referred Comcast to FSN. FSN wanted Comcast to pay the "new market rate" for the games that FSN bought from the Jazz. Rather than think of the customer base Comcast just decided to black out the games thinking that most people wouldn't really care. Turns out they were right... Comast supposedly only lost 200 subscribers that they could directly attribute to the Jazz game policy.

As an aside it was a dark day when we had to go back to cable when we moved into a condo. Channel 2 13 and 14 and several others are shaddowy on my non-HD TV and we actually get better reception off our terrestrial antenna, but the builder roped us in to a 10 year contract with Comcast so we're stuck...

Bottom line is cable is (at least) 50 year old technology who's time has past. It is clear (to me at least) that having to maintain hundreds of thousands of miles of coax is not a cost effective model. A Dish IMO is really the way to go. The only downside to me is that there are no HD locals supported by either dish company. And switching between a terrestrial antenna and a satellite receiver is not something that I want to do. Still with my contempt for POS mega corporations that suck money from customers with very little regard to their customers needs.

I had Dish for 7 years prior to moving to Comcast and the only problem I had was 1 time I had to take broom to the dish in a snow storm to knock some snow off. I've had to call Comsuck 8 times in the last year for some sort of service interrruption. Yes, as you can tell cable makes my blood boil.

[Sailor]

Just be thankful that you don't have Comcast Internet Service. That sucker goes down more often than a two dollar hooker on Saturday night.

[x]

There are advantages and disadvantages to both systems. I used to work for a cable company (not Comcast or any of its predecessors) but it clearly is far from perfect. The picture clarity can and should be better on both types. The biggest advantage that cable has (and possibly always will) is that it can deliver significant amounts of local content (as in public access). Granted few people care, but I think there's a big chicken and egg problem. Until people care, the budget will be tiny. People won't care until the programming doesn't look like it was done as a junior high after school project. It's tough.

[oldradio]

There is not an advantage to both systems. Cable is sorely hurting. They tout all the neat things they can do, but don't (and sometimes can't technically) deliver. If that is your wonderful product and you are using old cable lines and equipment to deliver it... then you are just going to get old lines. I don't care what kind of hi-tech next gen stuff you've got at the head end, if it's gotta go thru the old stuff, it kind of defeats the purpose. Sad. If your service a taxi service and you offer that to customers as your product and your fleet o' cars is old Le Cars that always break down and can get people where they need to go on time, then that isn't much of a reliable product is it then? I don't care what hi oxtane gas you put in the Le Car.
Can you tell I have Comcast too? I was DirecTV for 8 years. Last year HAD to take Comcast due to location. And now Comcast wants to offer your phone service. Can you imagine?
TAXI!

[x]

The advantage to the concept doesn't necessarily translate to it being implemented well on any given system. I've seen cable systems run a whole lot more effectively than Comcast. I also know of systems that are a LOT worse. (Imagine if you will a cable system that's STILL using the A/B cable combination with 35 channels on each. In 2006. You want to talk about serious suckage......)

The potential is there, but will Comcast step up to the plate? I'm not even sure they could financially support the infrastructure rebuild that you'd want at this point.

[BlowMeUpTom]

x said:

The advantage to the concept doesn't necessarily translate to it being implemented well on any given system. I've seen cable systems run a whole lot more effectively than Comcast. I also know of systems that are a LOT worse. (Imagine if you will a cable system that's STILL using the A/B cable combination with 35 channels on each. In 2006. You want to talk about serious suckage......)

The potential is there, but will Comcast step up to the plate? I'm not even sure they could financially support the infrastructure rebuild that you'd want at this point.

I guess what I find so intriguing, is that I was paying $85 a month for comcast digital cable, the only extra I had was the military channel package, ****ty customer service, mediocre picture quality, I now use 4DTV at $45 a month, I have the Military Channel package, plus, all Cinemax channels, The Movie Channel, Ten, and I get to watch ALL the Jazz games that I was promised from comcast, I'm very pleased with this C-Band, and I am astonished at the difference it picture quality, now my problem is what the uck was my $85 a month going to, it definitely want service, I think comcast is out ripping people off and it had me so upset at one point, I was thinking some very violent things, Comcast does a whole lot of talking and advertising and absolutely nothing as far as action and results go.

[x]

Oh C-band rocks. No question. If you have the means, that's the best deal out there. The digitally compressed signals aren't as good as full Videocipher II analog, but there aren't as many of those around anymore. Still, you get much better quality, true a-la carte, bla bla bla. You just have to put up with changing satellites and a Big Ugly Dish.

And don't get me started on the wildfeeds.

[BlowMeUpTom]

x said:

Oh C-band rocks. No question. If you have the means, that's the best deal out there. The digitally compressed signals aren't as good as full Videocipher II analog, but there aren't as many of those around anymore. Still, you get much better quality, true a-la carte, bla bla bla. You just have to put up with changing satellites and a Big Ugly Dish.

And don't get me started on the wildfeeds.

Definitely not convenient by any means! I wish they would find a better way of doing it, that is if they even could make c-band more compact, I don't know enough about it, this is my first run with it ever! it's like a new X-Box game for me, by that I mean figuring it out is like playing a new game, I keep stumbling on to all sorts of cool s#%t, and just when I think Ive figured it out, I get surprised!