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Post by Amanuensis on May 8, 2003 7:40:47 GMT -5
The other day, I happened to be driving along I-80 by the airport while my radio was in Seek mode. It stopped on 1710 Khz. What is broadcasting there? It actually sounds like two different programs, both of about equal strength. Once you get past the airport, both fade quickly at the same time, so obviously the signals must be coming from the airport. The programming does not appear on other frequencies, but sounding very good (both of them).
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Andy
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Post by Andy on May 8, 2003 22:38:31 GMT -5
That's strange. I never heared it, but I'll certainly check it out next time I'm out there...
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Post by x on May 9, 2003 3:07:13 GMT -5
I had the same thing happen to me. It's probably a third harmonic of KNRS 570.
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Post by Michaeljwyo on May 9, 2003 10:56:41 GMT -5
I would have to agree with that. When I'm in Salt Lake, there are several spots on the dial I get mixes of 2 or 3 stations. Seems like when I'm near the high voltage power lines running along 4700 S in West Valley, there's all kinds of wierd stuff that you get....lots of mixes of 2 or 3 stations hear and there. Just one of those properties of AM.
Michael n WYO
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Post by David on May 9, 2003 12:02:16 GMT -5
I had the same thing happen to me. It's probably a third harmonic of KNRS 570. I have a similar problem with harmonics from KYFO AM. I live about a mile or two from the station and can pick up KYFO on 530, 590, and other frequencies at times. But only on an inexpensive radio with poor filtering. I don't think there's any TIS stations in Salt Lake on 1710. I know there's TIS stations in SLC on 1300, 1530, and 1630, and of course the "flamethrower" TIS at the Salt Lake City Int'l Airport on 1200. The airport TIS comes in loud and clear, even up north in Ogden. |
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Post by x on May 10, 2003 16:28:06 GMT -5
Is there something still on 1300? The one that is currently{1} on 1630 in SLC/Davis was originally on 1300, I think. It moved pretty quickly. Is 1300 the one down by Utah county?
1630 is a *TERRIBLE* slot for a TIS though. It's first adjacent to KBJA, which splatters something awful over it. Why couldn't they at least have made it 1620? That would even be closer to the core AM band and might be more likely to be picked up by older analog receivers. Amazingly dumb move. Then again, when you combine UDOT (saying they're dumb is being kind) and the FCC (merely lobotomized) the results were guaranteed to be awful.
{1} That is, when they're actually being used.
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Post by David on May 14, 2003 3:28:37 GMT -5
Is there something still on 1300? The one that is currently{1} on 1630 in SLC/Davis was originally on 1300, I think. It moved pretty quickly. Is 1300 the one down by Utah county? The TIS on 1300 broadcasts traffic information for I-80, and I think it's in Salt Lake County. I can hear the station pretty clear in Ogden if I listen on a communications receiver hooked to an outdoor longwire. 1630 is a *TERRIBLE* slot for a TIS though. It's first adjacent to KBJA, which splatters something awful over it. Why couldn't they at least have made it 1620? That would even be closer to the core AM band and might be more likely to be picked up by older analog receivers. Amazingly dumb move. Then again, when you combine UDOT (saying they're dumb is being kind) and the FCC (merely lobotomized) the results were guaranteed to be awful. Don't even get me started on this topic. I have to wonder why the FCC would allow two 50,000 watt stations on 1020 (KINF in Roswell, New Mexico and some Spanish station in LA whose call letters I've forgotten), with probably 1,000 miles or less between the stations. One of the reasons AM radio has lost listeners in recent years is because of the horrible interference at night. |
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Post by Doh on May 14, 2003 13:41:40 GMT -5
KTNQ Los Angeles
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Post by x on May 15, 2003 1:42:54 GMT -5
KTNQ *must* have been put in after KINF. Check the night pattern. They have a transmitter site just east of Los Angeles and throw everything due west. The null to the east is huge. The grade B contour at night doesn't even hit San Bernadino. Hawaii probably picks it up great though. 50kw aimed right at the fish. www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KTNQ&service=AM&status=L&hours=N |
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Post by David on May 15, 2003 3:37:26 GMT -5
KTNQ *must* have been put in after KINF. Check the night pattern. They have a transmitter site just east of Los Angeles and throw everything due west. The null to the east is huge. The grade B contour at night doesn't even hit San Bernadino. Hawaii probably picks it up great though. 50kw aimed right at the fish.
Ah, now THERE'S an effective use of radio energy! ;D
All kidding aside, KTNQ's null to the east is only effective to a certain degree. Most nights I hear KTNQ about 50% of the time I'm listening to 1020. In fact, I'm getting an earful of KTNQ right now at 1:15 AM. Too bad, because KINF plays some great old music from the '40's and '50's at night. It's a shame the "clear channel" frequencies aren't as clear as they used to be . . . but then, we have the FCC to thank for that bungle.
Back on topic . . . .
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Post by Friend Lee on May 15, 2003 21:35:50 GMT -5
KTNQ signed on in the 1920's if I recall correctly.
...now back to the high end of the dial... ;D
Friend Lee
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